Destined to destroy ourselves: Out of Place artifacts (whoforted.com post)

When one thinks about the ancient world, the visions that often come to mind are of antiquated people, doing antiquated things, with antiquated contraptions. Building the pyramids with ropes and crude wooden pulleys, or sucking back fumes from a hole in ground in order to consult an oracle. These things seem laughably quaint to us with our computer programmed machines and Science™. But what if our ancestors had actually progressed along further than we might think? I’m one of a growing number people who believe that we, as the human race, have reached a level of technology comparable to our current level long before now, and several times at least. There are many others who, for some years now, have been not been content with history as it has been reported, and are curious as to whether or not we’ve not reached even more advanced levels of technology before being “reset”, or perhaps damning ourselves to the Stone Age again through bad decisions.

Why would anyone begin to believe such a thing? After all, our history books, our sciences, are infallible, aren’t they?

Artifacts. Not clay pottery or stone tools. Strange artifacts, tools we can’t quite figure out. Objects made from “future” material, or designed in such a way that they couldn’t possibly have belonged to the civilizations we see as so quaint. Some of them we still can’t figure out. Artifacts such as these:

Roman Deca

Roman Dodecahedrons

These artifacts have been discovered all over, with locations ranging from Italy, to Wales, and even Germany. These 12 sided bronze artifacts have a large hole in the center, and they have large holes in the top, and some in the sides. These artifacts have no known significant purposes, but they’re strange, unusual, almost sci-fi. Wax has been found inside several of them, and they’ve been though to be anything from religious artifacts to survey equipment.

 

20000-Year-Old-Spiral-Shaped-Metal-Object-Found-in-Russia

Spiral metal from 20,000 years ago

In Russia, along the Narada river, were found small, spiral metal artifacts that are extremely modern in manufacturing processes and in machined accuracy. These artifacts have been discovered about 10 to 40 feet under the earth along riverbeds. The larger ones are made of copper, tungsten, and molybdenum, two rare metals that are extremely difficult to work with due to the extreme heats required to work these metals. Their purpose remains unknown.

 

Piri Reis Map

Maps of the world

There are hundreds of maps on stone, leather, and paper that graph the world, include America and South America, and were created long before ancient humans “should” have been able to map the earth. Some of the best artifacts of this type is the Piri Reis Map, which was created by a famed Turkish Admiral. By 1513, he had collected or created maps showing everything from the Eastern coasts of South and North America to parts of Antarctica. There exist many more ancient maps that depict the early civilizations had knowledge of the entire world.

 

William Connector

The Williams Connector

In the late 90’s John Williams was walking along a trail that was 30 feet or so from hisusual path, and happened to kick up an odd rock. Upon examination, he found what looks like three connectors sticking out of the rock, reminiscent of electrical or audio connections. In the photo you see the circular part of the connector. What little examination that has been done on this object has shown that the prongs are not metal or stone, but an unknown material.

Ancient History Revised? Or Mischievous Hoax?

If you take a look at these ancient creations, and others, such as the Baghdad batteries, the Nazca Lines, and the Dropa stones, you could have some compelling evidence for things not quite lining up with the way they are presented to us in history books. But while many of these artifacts are compelling, and I have no doubt that plenty of them genuinely evidence of unaccounted for ancient technology, one important thing to remember is this: hoaxes happen all the time. There are always the few who are driven to spin, exaggerate, and just plain lie in order to sell a book or television show, so it’s always a solid plan to keep your wits about you when your researching into “lost ancient technology”.

For a long time, I have purposefully stayed away from the websites where there was clear agenda to make something look exciting or to promote a personal belief. If we were to research half the claims made, I will be the first to admit that more than half of them are probably stories told to promote the idea that ancient aliens or divine interventions occurred in the evolution of man. The spiral metal from Russia is particularly intriguing, because as I researched them more, and the more I looked at the photos, I realized that they seemed to be parts of maybe a boat or ship, and they were, after all, found along a river bed.

The Dropa Stone Discs

Something else that has occurred to me is the ancient stone carvings in boulders is this: if we have these ancient stones showing flight, advanced weaponry, and other amazing technology… why the hell were they still carving into stone? One could argue that they were trying to preserve the data for future retrieval, or discovery, but you would think they would tell the whole story, and not just the “star maps” or flight patterns.

If these things existed, we would have to revise our history, and re-writing history isn’t as simple as changing the text books in our schools and colleges, the information would have to be verified by truly independent and verifiable researchers and professors. To get someone who isn’t normally going to seriously look at these artifacts is difficult. Why?  It would essentially mean that they would be tasked with out-dating their career. If these massively monumental discoveries of ancient technology should be found to be real, these researchers would have to relearn everything they held as true.

By accepting the idea that we might have destroyed ourselves several times in the past, we are forced to take a long look at religious beliefs and scientific teachings. The world as a whole would look at the institutions of religion, of large parts of history, only to realize that we had been lied to. history is told by the winners, after all. But, as I look at the evidence, I don’t think if aliens had intertwined themselves with us as many people now think they had, they would let us destroy ourselves so easily. Why waste the time and resources to help these semi-intelligent creatures so they can destroy themselves? Given the time, humans will be able to create things all on our own, and it’s up to us not to destroy ourselves with the things we’ve built.

The question I’m most fascinated with though is not whether or not we’ve once built ourselves to the sky only to fall, but why we might have fallen to begin with.

Final thoughts

I really think that human ingenuity allows for us to advance much quicker than we’re told. In the last 100 years we’ve achieved flight on planet, and in just the last 50 years, flight to space. What or where can we go in another hundred years? We have a world wide infrastructure that allows me to talk to people in Italy in their native tongue, even though I don’t speak Italian. I can download an entire year’s worth of television series in matter of minutes. I carry around the sum of human achievement on a device in my pocket. Humanity doesn’t give itself enough credit for what we can achieve in such a small time frame. Likewise, we also underestimate the destructive nature within us, the one that caused us to build such devastating devices like the atomic bomb, a weapon engineered for the sole purpose of wiping ourselves out in mass numbers. Ironically, our ingenuity is only matched by our stupidity.

If you choose to believe that we had once reached technological heights similar to the ones we experience now, with that believe inevitably comes a warning: with great power comes great responsibility. Have we been here before? The answer might lie in the ruined debris of the past, a message to be careful what we do with our future.

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2 thoughts on “Destined to destroy ourselves: Out of Place artifacts (whoforted.com post)”

  1. Archeology doesn’t really care about single objects–the assumption is that if you only find one or two, the artifact isn’t society wide, and thus isn’t part of the ‘culture.’

    Scientists are not the impartial and patient seekers of truth either–they live in a world where publishing new findings is vital to their retention of their positions,and,like all people, they get attached to their work and theories.

    Unfortunately a great many people who redistribute the stories of out-of-place artifacts, fail to even provide source references, leaving a series of statements which we cannot verify easily if at all.

    Take the Russian metal spirals. They are given a date…but we aren’t told who dated them, nor how they dated them. We know nothing of what else might have been found in situ with or near them. We are not given a metallurgical nor even chemical analysis, nor are we told where any of these can be found for further examination.

    We do know that there are a fairly large number of oddities that exist, and many are unexplained–though that doesn’t mean inexplicable.

    Atlatl weights were, for a very long time, considers to be ‘religious objects’ when examined by those recreating the weapon system, they were found to be an integral and important part which greatly increases the force of the thrown spear.

    From description, the Roman bronze decahedrons appear to have been used, at least sometimes, as candle holders.

    We know from stone structures in Indonesia that people were building large stone structures at least 30,000 BCE. We know little about who they were, as mostly they left only destroyed structures.

    The intriguing thing about the Russian spirals is the Tungsten and Molybdenum pieces, because neither metal is found in metallic form, and neither is trivial to refine–using current technology.

    But technology is knowledge applied…we currently make Titanium using a very cumbersome and expensive process–similar to the cost of processing Aluminum in the 19th Century. Once you know how, the refining of either metal can be reduced in cost by over 90%. Making assumptions about process and cost of an artifact at the time it is made is dependent upon either knowledge or assumptions regarding these. Which may or may not agree with the actual facts.

    Nearly every invention we know of was invented/discovered by numerous people nearly simultaneously. Many were invented decades or centuries before being actually used in society.

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